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kisoapSENTIMENTALIST / HOW WE MAKE GODS | seventeen/pristin (jeonghan-centric, inyyjh) | 4,005 words
remixed from tonyang (kurusui)'s lovely masterpiece fever dream high ♡
BEHIND THE SCENES
sapphy, did you even TRY to maintain anonymity?? >> HEY... 1. in my defense, even though this fic was revealed on the last day, i had submitted everything to the mods on 9/14 2:39AM ok!! this is the earliest i've turned in a fic in like 5 years... (yes it is still 9 days after the deadline [if you're looking at pago pago time]) 2. i walked into ficmix resolute that i was not going to remix one of risa's inyyjhs and walked out of ficmix... remixing one of risa's inyyjhs... at check in, i was actually remixing OBSESSION!! i knew pretty soon after getting my assignment that i probably wanted a) to remix ALL THE MOMENTS I LONG FOR or b) one of risa's yjh fics, because the way risa writes yjh is so compelling. and i wanted to write yjh pov, thinking i hadn't done so before (i remembered that i had only at the end of august lol). BUT ISN'T IT TELLING WHEN YOU CHECK IN WITH AN OPENING SCENE FROM YOUR FIC THAT is literally nayoung being angry at jeonghan for not liking her back (a backstory i wanted to open the OBSESSION remix for - repurposed lines that made it into the actual fic: “I don’t think I could ever imagine you being on your own,” Nayoung told him once. Out of context, it didn’t mean much. But then you start to fill in the blanks. and “You sound so polite when you’re angry,” he pointed out tangentially. He’d always liked that about her rage.) i also started to have a crisis because i just could not formulate a concrete reason of why jeonghan would like jww to the extent established in the original fic that i believed in myself and could write an entire fic around. i think part of the magic of the original is that jww doesn't know why yjh likes him either. also i have not had a thought about jww in like six months, who was i to write him as someone's object of affection ?__? all in all, this is just to say - i did try not to write inyyjh!!
an aside but i also wanted to remix OBSESSION because i think everyone should read it and generate more fic traffic to ao3 user tonyang (kurusui)!!
another aside, but i had a moment of intense panic on september 11 11:14PM because i ACCIDENTALLY HIT "POST" INSTEAD OF "PREVIEW" ON MY DRAFT THAT WAS NOT IN THE FICMIX COLLECTION... WHICH LIVE POSTED IT... was convinced risa knew it was me at this point and freaked out and could not focus on writing at all the rest of the night ♡ but luckily not everyone uses user subscriptions!! ♡
GENERAL FIC COMMENTARY
it's all about the dicks... she means dichotomies.
title
i think the original title was just "sentimentalist", but then (this is a stupid reason) i didn't want 2 one-word fic titles back-to-back... so i changed it to "how we make gods"!! but i also didn't really want to let "sentimentalist" go. and here comes the magic of the forward slash!
both these titles were too good to pass up for this fic... at least that's how i feel about it lol. like "sentimentalist" refers to yjh's inward perception of himself, while "how we make gods" is the impression the external world has of him. everyone thinks very highly of yjh (fans, sebongies) - this is the "god" part. "how we make gods" in a sense is what you choose to project outwardly, and how other people judge and perceive that. and in the absence of what's not being spoken, it makes you wonder how yjh thinks of himself.
i'm aware the / title made it unnecessarily long and kind of ugly... but hopefully it's the baby yoda kind of ugly-cute :_)
opening quote
from wikipedia:
syntax roughly being concerned with how words combine to form larger units (sentences, concerned with grammar) and semantics being the meaning or truth that those words form. anyone else take an intro ling class in college and think you could major in linguistics only to get hit with the IPA (international phonetic alphabet, not the beer terminology!) and realize it's not your thing!! anyway, i've always wanted to use this as an epigraph to a fic, but it never fit anywhere TT___TT
a big part of this fic's jeonghan is being concerned with inner authenticity vs. how other people derive their own meaning of what you say and how you say it. so which one is the truth? and even if you explain your intention to another person, what if they don't believe you then? did you say it because you meant it, or did you say it because you believed the other person needed to hear it (you'd never tell them that, though)? and even though the latter sounds less "authentic" and "true" - if you did that with the right intentions, does that make it any less true than saying something you meant but hurting them with that "truth"?
again... it's all about the dichotomies!!
conception of the idea
mentioned above, but i really wanted to write a yjh-centric fic because all of risa's yjhs are so interesting and yjh himself is interesting to me! in that the person he is outwardly and onscreen really makes you think about the thoughts that took him there, if that makes sense lol. some people are easy to read and some people pretend they're hard to read but actually show all their emotions and some people are IMPOSSIBLE to read, closed book and no context... the last one's yjh obviously.
some miscellaneous yjh canon conundrums that have always fascinated me: everyone always brings up how he had a focus in natural sciences in high school but it doesn't seem like he was interested in the sciences at all. i vaguely remember from one of nisa's curiouscat answers that in the early days (not sure if 17tv or early on in debut) jeonghan's answer to the typical "what career would you have if you weren't an idol" question was like "barista." i think only later on he said things like student or preschool teacher (can't remember if this is a fan perception of a good career for him or if he actually said this himself... or if he said this because he knew it was a fan perception of him) and mostly recently, COW FARMER (because he has a friend who's a cow farmer). and that he only became an idol by chance in the first place because he followed his cow farmer friend to an audition!
(you can skip to the next section because there's about to be a mbti intermission) all these threads really convince me of yjh Fe (extroverted feeling) user and most likely ISFJ. it seems like so many of his own visions for himself are crystallized by the presence of other people, which seems so Fe to me! also because i needed like a 10 minute canon crash course because i'm behind on svt content, i rewatched jeonghan's hit the road episode and i was reminded about how... sterile ? it seemed for a supposed "documentary". of course things are going to be heavily filtered because this is kpop, and pledis is the one posting and editing this, but in other htr episodes, i feel like i got a better sense of how the members see themselves - what worries them, what made them proud, etc, etc but there's such an absence of that in jeonghan's episode. he talks about his struggles in terms of how he sees it affecting the rest of the group and the fans and never really delves into how he feels about that himself in an emotionally rich way, which also really convinced me of Fe-aux (not Fe-dom because even though he's emotionally reactive - so, extroverted function, it feels like there's a proactivity that's driving it - so i'm assuming an introverted dominant function, probably Si). and the way we get the one moment of insight into yjh's personality is only when seungkwan initiates it:
not to go full-blown mbti analysis in a fic commentary post (though i think i thought about it a lot in order to write yjh TT___TT) but this just screams the tert-Ti to me. having to rationalize and understand things in your own way rather than accepting the outside objective result as it is. funnily enough, i think the nayoung of fever dream high is very ISTJ but like risa mentioned, there's not enough interview material out there for me to really get a hold on her actual mbti !__! but i do agree with risa's: i believe ixtj would be the best fit.. and which would truly be so delicious against isfj jeonghan. the Fe vs Fi would indeed be delicious!!
also, in relation to this idea of "getting insight to yjh only through other people" i intentionally wrote every scene with jeonghan interacting with other people.
(ok you can come back now if you wanted to skip the mbti!!) it's funny because this fic is about yjh the idol and yjh the person behind what we see on cameras, and it's definitely about inyyjh as a relationship, but at the same time it's a fic about none of those things in my mind. i 1) wrote with so much condensed intention that i think none of the deeper things i intended to embed actually shone through and 2) i write specifically and not specifically at all lol. so honestly if someone read this and thought "this is just an idols getting together fic" i would also totally agree with them!
THE PLAYLIST
final cut here ♡ really curated more for the vibes than the direct fic to lyrics connection, but i think all of these songs talk very strongly about nostalgia which is perfect for "sentimentalist" ^__^
1. Garden Song - Phoebe Bridgers
I don't know how, but I'm taller
It must be something in the water
Everything's growing in our garden
You don't have to know that it's haunted
The doctor put her hands over my liver
She told me my resentment's getting smaller
this last verse is ins*ne to me... puts the sentimental in sentimentalist!! also as much as i do like this song, i don't know how i've listened to it 241 times in 2021.
2. 715 CREEKS - Bon Iver
And love at second glance
It is not something that we need
Honey, understand that I have been left here in the reeds
And all I'm trying to do is get my feet up from the crease
ok, official lyrics are "and love, a second glance it is not something that we need" but i think "at second glance" just twists the knife even more acutely... this feels like having so much emotionality to spill but being unable to breach that wall and express it externally. song bangs though! (also my fave bon iver track of all time TT__TT)
3. Hey, Ma - Bon Iver
I waited outside
Then you took me in the room
And you offered up the truth
the thing about bon iver lyrics are sometimes you really have no idea what they mean, but the emotions roll through. another really nostalgic track.
4. Jupiter - Gallant
And I was blaming you an ego so inflated
And red infatuation so strong
Decades overdue
Regretting all the patience
I'm sorry that I waited too long
relates to yjh finally being able to express his feelings outright and not second-guessing his intentions and how nayoung will interpret them.
5. Nevertheless - Night Off
You're a bad person, also you're a bad love
If you want my heart, give me your heart too
the greediness of wanting someone to like you "despite" rather than "because". also i think this song is sooooo [hypothetical] inyyjh!!
FOCUSED COMMENTARY
the idea that you can only go halfway, in a sense, with communication. you can say something you mean, but if the other person doesn't believe it, then does that make it untrue?
and then the dramatic irony of her revealing that she's been on a date with another person on this exact same course before!! originally i was going to include a detail where she wanted to "overwrite" her memory of when she was here with her ex, but 1. it didn't fit and 2. i don't think iny is transparent enough to admit that for the sake of continuing conversation.
the double meaning of the confession being 1. iny thinks yjh is seeing her, in fact, Not to set the record straight about scoopy and 2. she's directly responding to yjh's "i don't know why you'd want to meet me otherwise", so this confession is that she actually wants to meet yjh because she's interested in him lol!! (#2 was the intended implication)
the authenticity debate mentioned previously. boiled down to its simplest parts, you could think about being genuine/authentic in 2 ways: 1. you truly mean what you say and are expressing this internal authenticity outwardly, to someone else or 2. your genuine intention is to affect a feeling or thought on someone else i.e. cheer them up, so you say what you think will convey that. so it's like... worrying that #2 isn't "true authenticity" but even when you operate on #1, something will get lost in translation from going internal (the thought in your mind) to external (how you tell someone else this thought), so what comes out might not be "true" to the other person hearing it either. It was simpler, then, to operate on a sort of selective truth >> if you think too hard about your own (lack of) authenticity, you will overthink everything you say and do! so you have to accept that there is always going to be something lost in the authenticity entropy.
no real commentary, i just think this is a good scene TT___TT
i only realized after skimming that this line could be taken as "yjh has liked iny for a long time" which is like!! a delicious implication. i didn't originally write it that way (meant for it to be more telling of yjh as a person, ties back to his loyalty and "seventeen is all i have" claims) but i'm not Not for it!!
ending notes
all in all, i think i am just so lucky to have gotten risa for ficmix TT____TT i laughed and also simultaneously had a crisis when i got my assignment :_) so much great source material to work with, especially the implications and background of fever dream high for not only nayoung, but also seventeen. it was a really nice universe to construct a "yjh character study" (in quotes because i don't know if it was truly successful lol) within, and obv a great way to snipe risa hehe >:) every year i think i will attempt a different method of ficmix (i.e. basically any kind of remix that is not just a pov swap lol) but... if it's not broke, don't fix it amirite!!
remixed from tonyang (kurusui)'s lovely masterpiece fever dream high ♡
BEHIND THE SCENES
sapphy, did you even TRY to maintain anonymity?? >> HEY... 1. in my defense, even though this fic was revealed on the last day, i had submitted everything to the mods on 9/14 2:39AM ok!! this is the earliest i've turned in a fic in like 5 years... (yes it is still 9 days after the deadline [if you're looking at pago pago time]) 2. i walked into ficmix resolute that i was not going to remix one of risa's inyyjhs and walked out of ficmix... remixing one of risa's inyyjhs... at check in, i was actually remixing OBSESSION!! i knew pretty soon after getting my assignment that i probably wanted a) to remix ALL THE MOMENTS I LONG FOR or b) one of risa's yjh fics, because the way risa writes yjh is so compelling. and i wanted to write yjh pov, thinking i hadn't done so before (i remembered that i had only at the end of august lol). BUT ISN'T IT TELLING WHEN YOU CHECK IN WITH AN OPENING SCENE FROM YOUR FIC THAT is literally nayoung being angry at jeonghan for not liking her back (a backstory i wanted to open the OBSESSION remix for - repurposed lines that made it into the actual fic: “I don’t think I could ever imagine you being on your own,” Nayoung told him once. Out of context, it didn’t mean much. But then you start to fill in the blanks. and “You sound so polite when you’re angry,” he pointed out tangentially. He’d always liked that about her rage.) i also started to have a crisis because i just could not formulate a concrete reason of why jeonghan would like jww to the extent established in the original fic that i believed in myself and could write an entire fic around. i think part of the magic of the original is that jww doesn't know why yjh likes him either. also i have not had a thought about jww in like six months, who was i to write him as someone's object of affection ?__? all in all, this is just to say - i did try not to write inyyjh!!
an aside but i also wanted to remix OBSESSION because i think everyone should read it and generate more fic traffic to ao3 user tonyang (kurusui)!!
another aside, but i had a moment of intense panic on september 11 11:14PM because i ACCIDENTALLY HIT "POST" INSTEAD OF "PREVIEW" ON MY DRAFT THAT WAS NOT IN THE FICMIX COLLECTION... WHICH LIVE POSTED IT... was convinced risa knew it was me at this point and freaked out and could not focus on writing at all the rest of the night ♡ but luckily not everyone uses user subscriptions!! ♡
GENERAL FIC COMMENTARY
it's all about the dicks... she means dichotomies.
title
i think the original title was just "sentimentalist", but then (this is a stupid reason) i didn't want 2 one-word fic titles back-to-back... so i changed it to "how we make gods"!! but i also didn't really want to let "sentimentalist" go. and here comes the magic of the forward slash!
both these titles were too good to pass up for this fic... at least that's how i feel about it lol. like "sentimentalist" refers to yjh's inward perception of himself, while "how we make gods" is the impression the external world has of him. everyone thinks very highly of yjh (fans, sebongies) - this is the "god" part. "how we make gods" in a sense is what you choose to project outwardly, and how other people judge and perceive that. and in the absence of what's not being spoken, it makes you wonder how yjh thinks of himself.
i'm aware the / title made it unnecessarily long and kind of ugly... but hopefully it's the baby yoda kind of ugly-cute :_)
opening quote
from wikipedia:
Chomsky writes in his 1957 book Syntactic Structures:
1. Colorless green ideas sleep furiously.
2. *Furiously sleep ideas green colorless.
It is fair to assume that neither sentence (1) nor (2) (nor indeed any part of these sentences) has ever occurred in an English discourse. Hence, in any statistical model for grammaticalness, these sentences will be ruled out on identical grounds as equally "remote" from English. Yet (1), though nonsensical, is grammatical, while (2) is not grammatical.
Although the sentence is grammatically correct, no obvious understandable meaning can be derived from it, and thus it demonstrates the distinction between syntax and semantics.
syntax roughly being concerned with how words combine to form larger units (sentences, concerned with grammar) and semantics being the meaning or truth that those words form. anyone else take an intro ling class in college and think you could major in linguistics only to get hit with the IPA (international phonetic alphabet, not the beer terminology!) and realize it's not your thing!! anyway, i've always wanted to use this as an epigraph to a fic, but it never fit anywhere TT___TT
a big part of this fic's jeonghan is being concerned with inner authenticity vs. how other people derive their own meaning of what you say and how you say it. so which one is the truth? and even if you explain your intention to another person, what if they don't believe you then? did you say it because you meant it, or did you say it because you believed the other person needed to hear it (you'd never tell them that, though)? and even though the latter sounds less "authentic" and "true" - if you did that with the right intentions, does that make it any less true than saying something you meant but hurting them with that "truth"?
again... it's all about the dichotomies!!
conception of the idea
mentioned above, but i really wanted to write a yjh-centric fic because all of risa's yjhs are so interesting and yjh himself is interesting to me! in that the person he is outwardly and onscreen really makes you think about the thoughts that took him there, if that makes sense lol. some people are easy to read and some people pretend they're hard to read but actually show all their emotions and some people are IMPOSSIBLE to read, closed book and no context... the last one's yjh obviously.
some miscellaneous yjh canon conundrums that have always fascinated me: everyone always brings up how he had a focus in natural sciences in high school but it doesn't seem like he was interested in the sciences at all. i vaguely remember from one of nisa's curiouscat answers that in the early days (not sure if 17tv or early on in debut) jeonghan's answer to the typical "what career would you have if you weren't an idol" question was like "barista." i think only later on he said things like student or preschool teacher (can't remember if this is a fan perception of a good career for him or if he actually said this himself... or if he said this because he knew it was a fan perception of him) and mostly recently, COW FARMER (because he has a friend who's a cow farmer). and that he only became an idol by chance in the first place because he followed his cow farmer friend to an audition!
(you can skip to the next section because there's about to be a mbti intermission) all these threads really convince me of yjh Fe (extroverted feeling) user and most likely ISFJ. it seems like so many of his own visions for himself are crystallized by the presence of other people, which seems so Fe to me! also because i needed like a 10 minute canon crash course because i'm behind on svt content, i rewatched jeonghan's hit the road episode and i was reminded about how... sterile ? it seemed for a supposed "documentary". of course things are going to be heavily filtered because this is kpop, and pledis is the one posting and editing this, but in other htr episodes, i feel like i got a better sense of how the members see themselves - what worries them, what made them proud, etc, etc but there's such an absence of that in jeonghan's episode. he talks about his struggles in terms of how he sees it affecting the rest of the group and the fans and never really delves into how he feels about that himself in an emotionally rich way, which also really convinced me of Fe-aux (not Fe-dom because even though he's emotionally reactive - so, extroverted function, it feels like there's a proactivity that's driving it - so i'm assuming an introverted dominant function, probably Si). and the way we get the one moment of insight into yjh's personality is only when seungkwan initiates it:
SEUNGKWAN: I think you're more like this [...] You're a bit more rational than people would think, than emotional. If you don't get something, you need it to be made clear. Always [...] He's like 'So we're doing this first? What do you want?' 'So I can't do this if I want to do that?' You're really detailed like that.
not to go full-blown mbti analysis in a fic commentary post (though i think i thought about it a lot in order to write yjh TT___TT) but this just screams the tert-Ti to me. having to rationalize and understand things in your own way rather than accepting the outside objective result as it is. funnily enough, i think the nayoung of fever dream high is very ISTJ but like risa mentioned, there's not enough interview material out there for me to really get a hold on her actual mbti !__! but i do agree with risa's: i believe ixtj would be the best fit.. and which would truly be so delicious against isfj jeonghan. the Fe vs Fi would indeed be delicious!!
also, in relation to this idea of "getting insight to yjh only through other people" i intentionally wrote every scene with jeonghan interacting with other people.
(ok you can come back now if you wanted to skip the mbti!!) it's funny because this fic is about yjh the idol and yjh the person behind what we see on cameras, and it's definitely about inyyjh as a relationship, but at the same time it's a fic about none of those things in my mind. i 1) wrote with so much condensed intention that i think none of the deeper things i intended to embed actually shone through and 2) i write specifically and not specifically at all lol. so honestly if someone read this and thought "this is just an idols getting together fic" i would also totally agree with them!
THE PLAYLIST
final cut here ♡ really curated more for the vibes than the direct fic to lyrics connection, but i think all of these songs talk very strongly about nostalgia which is perfect for "sentimentalist" ^__^
1. Garden Song - Phoebe Bridgers
I don't know how, but I'm taller
It must be something in the water
Everything's growing in our garden
You don't have to know that it's haunted
The doctor put her hands over my liver
She told me my resentment's getting smaller
this last verse is ins*ne to me... puts the sentimental in sentimentalist!! also as much as i do like this song, i don't know how i've listened to it 241 times in 2021.
2. 715 CREEKS - Bon Iver
And love at second glance
It is not something that we need
Honey, understand that I have been left here in the reeds
And all I'm trying to do is get my feet up from the crease
ok, official lyrics are "and love, a second glance it is not something that we need" but i think "at second glance" just twists the knife even more acutely... this feels like having so much emotionality to spill but being unable to breach that wall and express it externally. song bangs though! (also my fave bon iver track of all time TT__TT)
3. Hey, Ma - Bon Iver
I waited outside
Then you took me in the room
And you offered up the truth
the thing about bon iver lyrics are sometimes you really have no idea what they mean, but the emotions roll through. another really nostalgic track.
4. Jupiter - Gallant
And I was blaming you an ego so inflated
And red infatuation so strong
Decades overdue
Regretting all the patience
I'm sorry that I waited too long
relates to yjh finally being able to express his feelings outright and not second-guessing his intentions and how nayoung will interpret them.
5. Nevertheless - Night Off
You're a bad person, also you're a bad love
If you want my heart, give me your heart too
the greediness of wanting someone to like you "despite" rather than "because". also i think this song is sooooo [hypothetical] inyyjh!!
FOCUSED COMMENTARY
Jeonghan had wanted it to be true, but he couldn’t say it was for sure. Desire had never been predisposed to manifest into objective candor, after all. This was, in short, just the extent he could go.
the idea that you can only go halfway, in a sense, with communication. you can say something you mean, but if the other person doesn't believe it, then does that make it untrue?
Nayoung made a face before braking hard at a stop light. “Don’t expect me to tell you everything.” She’d mentioned that she was a relatively new driver over the phone.
and then the dramatic irony of her revealing that she's been on a date with another person on this exact same course before!! originally i was going to include a detail where she wanted to "overwrite" her memory of when she was here with her ex, but 1. it didn't fit and 2. i don't think iny is transparent enough to admit that for the sake of continuing conversation.
“You shouldn’t imagine yourself so selfless,” she told him without looking up. It was all but a confession in and of itself.
the double meaning of the confession being 1. iny thinks yjh is seeing her, in fact, Not to set the record straight about scoopy and 2. she's directly responding to yjh's "i don't know why you'd want to meet me otherwise", so this confession is that she actually wants to meet yjh because she's interested in him lol!! (#2 was the intended implication)
Putting someone else’s feelings before yours was a genuinity on its own, but the actions could always be read other ways. Things actualized on a conceptual level sometimes didn’t make any sense on paper, either. It was simpler, then, to operate on a sort of selective truth.
the authenticity debate mentioned previously. boiled down to its simplest parts, you could think about being genuine/authentic in 2 ways: 1. you truly mean what you say and are expressing this internal authenticity outwardly, to someone else or 2. your genuine intention is to affect a feeling or thought on someone else i.e. cheer them up, so you say what you think will convey that. so it's like... worrying that #2 isn't "true authenticity" but even when you operate on #1, something will get lost in translation from going internal (the thought in your mind) to external (how you tell someone else this thought), so what comes out might not be "true" to the other person hearing it either. It was simpler, then, to operate on a sort of selective truth >> if you think too hard about your own (lack of) authenticity, you will overthink everything you say and do! so you have to accept that there is always going to be something lost in the authenticity entropy.
Jeonghan smiled. “I think Nayoung only likes me because I’m nice to her.”
Sojung laughed at that. “Wouldn’t it be more of an issue if she did and you weren’t?”
“But wouldn’t that make it genuine?” And he’d always wanted it to be, foolishly.
no real commentary, i just think this is a good scene TT___TT
“You wouldn’t expect it, but he’s the type to love someone for a long time,” Jisoo intervened. It was one of the few moments of his that hadn’t been edited out by the production staff. “He’s really slow when it comes to romance.”
i only realized after skimming that this line could be taken as "yjh has liked iny for a long time" which is like!! a delicious implication. i didn't originally write it that way (meant for it to be more telling of yjh as a person, ties back to his loyalty and "seventeen is all i have" claims) but i'm not Not for it!!
ending notes
all in all, i think i am just so lucky to have gotten risa for ficmix TT____TT i laughed and also simultaneously had a crisis when i got my assignment :_) so much great source material to work with, especially the implications and background of fever dream high for not only nayoung, but also seventeen. it was a really nice universe to construct a "yjh character study" (in quotes because i don't know if it was truly successful lol) within, and obv a great way to snipe risa hehe >:) every year i think i will attempt a different method of ficmix (i.e. basically any kind of remix that is not just a pov swap lol) but... if it's not broke, don't fix it amirite!!
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Date: 2021-09-28 01:58 am (UTC)2. i'm so curious now how you would have spun obsession and all the moments *___* i find it so fun to hear about the other options people considered
3. now i want to hear more about inyyjh backstory in obsession T___T
4. " i just could not formulate a concrete reason of why jeonghan would like jww to the extent established in the original fic that i believed in myself and could write an entire fic around" ME NEITHER... even tho its easier for me to see yjh -> iny romantically for obvious reasons i think you are so cool for writing yjh pov i don't think i could ever do that, ever!! but also, your brain is so huge for the isfj insights you put here. i gasped when i saw the sife playlist title lol!!
5. re: you posting your draft i totally DO have u on user subscriptions (♡) but you must have deleted it fast enough to not get sent out askdjkldf
6. i love the title meaning TT
7. you bring up such a good insight on his fe, because i always thought of it like, yjh is good at handling other people because he has good fe. i never stopped to think about how yjh's identity has been shaped by other people!! i love how this whole fic was shaped around that and i feel like the way you've grounded his character so well in real life is so effective both in creating a strong narrative, and in sharing a compelling character study for someone so inscrutable. i think the effect of fe on the self, rather than just how it is used on other people, is a good point that you brought up about fe in your own mbti post. and i agree about fdh!nayoung bc its so easy for me to fall into the pitfall of dredging up the si tendencies in everyone as an si-dom skdjkdl, especially people who have visible emotional repression. pd "consensus" (18 votes) thinks nayoung is istj but i believe that's a stereotype, since she doesn't talk that much about her motivation or even her behavior.
8. as u now know you putting a nevertheless ost on your playlist has reactivated my brainworms!!
9. love u <3333 i'm so lucky that i got to receive a gift from u!!
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Date: 2021-10-09 05:38 am (UTC)2. i would love to remix all the moments if i get the chance!! i just didn't have enough brain cells in the ficmix time frame to come up with an interesting premise TT but it was sooo hard to choose which fic of yours to remix because there are so many good ones!!
3. IN A NUTSHELL: iny only became friends with yjh because she was interested in him romantically, ended up confessing to him, and then when he said he'd rather stay friends she lashed out and said that he was different around every single person he hung out with!! and then they stay friends(ish) that blends into the canon of the poker night scene (Nayoung was constantly hostile which was overall pretty on brand for Jeonghan. >> could not leave this alone in all its delicious implication...)
4. i think i've written so much jww pov that it's like [cricket noises] when it comes to writing jww as an outsider!! also i haven't watched much jww/yjh content... the last thing i remember is during 17 project when they were in no f.u.n unit together and jww explicitly said he and yjh don't interact/work together much @@ i'm glad that u liked the yjh pov TT______TT ♡♡♡ re: sife playlist title - risa i think u r the one who unleashed the mbti brainworms in me in the first place!!
5. SDFJSALKDGD RISA I'M D*ING... i immediately panicked to 2 of my friends asking if they got an email notif and one of them told me she doesn't user subscribe at all which reassured me that i was safe (= assumed that other ppl also don't user subscribe!!) sdgsjkdf maybe i need to create a dummy account and test the limits of ao3 notifs so i know how far my b.s. can go...!!
6. T____T thank u for liking the annoyingly long title ♡
7. i love ur funky si-dom brain ♡ also: not sure if it's the si-dom but the details and clarity embedded in your writing is my favorite and so interesting because the structure is so counter-intuitive to me, but it reads so perfect - like there's no other way it could've been written *___*
8. behind-the-scenes but 2 hrs before i decided to give up on director's cut fest i was seriously considering writing nvrthlss inyyjh!! i hope that i have successfully passed on the au brainworms to you tho because i think i've met my innyjh quota for the year ♡
9. i'm the lucky one to get u for ficmix TT___TT also lucky that u liked it ♡ (and lucky that ao3 didn't send u an email of my posted draft failure ♡)